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Post by Hallabalu on Nov 10, 2020 21:45:12 GMT 12
Since day one (3rd Nov 2020) I’ve been amazed at the claims of voter fraud. On one hand, claims by Trump that if he loses this election, then it was voter fraud, basically setting himself an argument platform to launch an investigative path to the Supreme Court hoping for a chance to overturn election results should he lose. Well, he lost! Seven days later, Fox News has joined the fray to try and help Trump with voter fraud theories. Make your conclusions and watch what Tucker has to say. Widespread voter fraud, I think not, sure there will always be those who will try to circumvent the official processes with some sort of fraudulent attempt, but the majority are honest. What surprises me the most is a call which is gaining momentum with mostly Republicans and those disappointed with the election result, to change the way the USA votes. Claiming even one fraudulent vote is unacceptable. I agree that fraud happens, but to change the voting system because of a few hundred cases, maybe a few thousand in a population of 320m plus, a bit farfetched and over-optimistic don’t you think? Possible barking up the wrong tree? Who knows, the point is changing the voting process to suit a certain party politics is not democratic, it’s outright thuggery! I’m going to try and speculate as to the reasons he’s trying so hard to make it look like the election was stolen from him. Why has Kayleigh McEnany allied herself with Donald Trump, why, after the election has been verified, she goes on CNN and supports what Donald is doing? Watch this… |
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Post by Pj Te Puni on Nov 11, 2020 0:09:14 GMT 12
The democrats changed the voting system just before the election to wide spread mail in ballots over showing in person also the use of electronic machines to also count ballots.check it up,it's on the Dems site.to blame Trump is a complete lie.your source of information is severely flawed and I'm guessing you take CNN as the truth.
Also another fact.Biden hasn't won anything yet because the electorial college and the GSA have not approved him as the President also just today the GSA also denied Bidens bid to force them to allow him to call it.thats true democracy at work since 4 or 5 states are going through recounts and Bidens leads are slowly vanishing.
It's rubbish news like this that tries to discourage,dishearten and desolve his voter base which by the way turned out in force without corruption and needing to change how ballots should be counted unlike the democrats party which showed the world just how corrupt they are and will stop at nothing to beat him by changing state law before the election,
In reality 2 states will be going to recount with another possible two other states since the margines are to close to call.
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Post by Hallabalu on Nov 11, 2020 3:28:52 GMT 12
Greetings and salutation to you PJ  I respect your opinion and hope that more visitors show how they feel by posting here and debating issues like this one. I know there are issues with what I write as some have told me via email, personal messages to tell me what they think on subjects I write about. Any way let's get started... Mail in voting on a large scale is part of American history, as referenced here, which was brought to prominence around the time of the civil war when Republican incumbent President Abraham Lincoln defeated Democratic candidate George McClellan. Democrats never changed the voting system, it has been this way for centuries. I guess you know Republicans usually vote in person, while Democrats mostly vote via mail in ballots. I do not understand the first part of this statement but I will try to understand and reply. Are you saying Trump wanted to use only the counting machines, or not use them at all? Remember the head of the Postal Service Louis DeJoy, who was appointed on June 15, 2020, dismantled many of those machines in an attempt to thwart the mail-in vote. No, I take all news outlets as sources of information, that's why that video of Tucker Carlson is from Fox News, Trumps official/unofficial media outlet. The video Tucker Carlson screened on his show was a CNN ad. As for that ad being premature in declaring Joe Biden President, well, only time will tell. As I have already stated Republicans usually vote in person, while Democrats mostly vote via mail-in ballot. Are you saying the law needs to be changed to favor the Republican Party? to stop mail-in voting? to take away ballot boxes (as Trump-appointed officials did do, check it out for yourself) to discriminate against mail-in voters by making it harder to vote by mail? Don't forget an awful lot of Republicans also vote by mail making the USPS very popular. News media outlets (all of them) knew Trump would appear to be winning after the first couple of days due to the fact that most Republicans vote early, and are counted first. then comes the first lot of Democrat vote counting and an either/or situation begins to develop. I agree with you there were firsts in voter turnout achieved, with a record turnout for Republicans, but those records were offset by the huge turnout of Democratic voters also. With Liberals, Progressives, many Republican voters and Democrats all-in against Trump. I personally think Trump will lose this bid to win the WH, he is too far behind, but I am willing, should he win after all the recounts, to admit I was wrong. I hope these answers have made it easier for you to understand my personal views on a very public event. I look forward to many debates with you.
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Post by PeterTM on Mar 24, 2024 17:29:33 GMT 12
Nice answers Hal bro, it is obvious you thought this one through.
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Post by Pango on Mar 24, 2024 17:45:51 GMT 12
You also did the research on what PJ said, but I see none from him lol.
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Post by Hallabalu on Mar 24, 2024 18:06:00 GMT 12
It's ok guys, PJ is my baby brother, and I was tickled to see he answered as a guest till I saw what he wrote. The rules of this forum are to research what you think you know, however, he didn't, but that's ok, I will not penalize him for not reading forum rules lol. PJ is highly opinionated on any subject he reads or watches on YouTube and it is very hard to persuade him otherwise, with a bit of nudging in the right direction with the information he missed seeing and also doing the research on his behalf, I figured what I wrote was accepted lol.
Sorry PJ, you cannot post as a guest anymore due to advertisers, you have to join the forum and post as a member bro!
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Post by Pango on Mar 24, 2024 18:07:51 GMT 12
Uh huh!
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Post by PeterTM on Mar 24, 2024 18:17:28 GMT 12
Your bro eh? Kiaora bro PJ if you eva come back.
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Post by Hallabalu on Mar 24, 2024 18:24:43 GMT 12
Hopefully he will pete.
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Post by OneandOnly on Mar 25, 2024 16:52:38 GMT 12
PJ is highly opinionated on any subject he reads or watches on YouTube and it is very hard to persuade him otherwise, with a bit of nudging in the right direction with the information he missed seeing and also doing the research on his behalf, I figured what I wrote was accepted lol. Lol I have a sister like that hehe. |
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Post by PeterTM on Mar 26, 2024 14:12:04 GMT 12
Is he a Republican lol, just kidding!
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Post by OneandOnly on Apr 2, 2024 11:18:47 GMT 12
Hahaha!
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Post by Pango on Apr 18, 2024 9:36:29 GMT 12
Well, looking at what he wrote, looks like he leans towards the right, wonder if he backs the Nats?
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I respect your opinion and hope that more visitors show how they feel by posting here and debating issues like this one. I know there are issues with what I write as some have told me via email, personal messages to tell me what they think on subjects I write about. Any way let's get started...
